Janet Jackson and her White Baby Boy!

Who does she think she's kidding?!

He kid isn't white, OP. This was explained to you and others pushing that nonsense in the original thread for Janet's tweet.

The kid isn't white, OP. This was explained to you and others pushing that nonsense in the original thread for Janet's tweet.

Why would she want a black baby when she can buy a white one?

Figures after [italic]Diff'rent Strokes[/italic] she'd have a baby of another color.

[quote] He kid isn't white, OP.

Don't tell me he has vitiligo.

R2 = Michael Jackosn' ghost

That's a beautiful baby...

Doesn't look afro american or arab but time will tell.

Maybe that's why he is divorcing her.

With Michael dead, at least she won't have to worry about the baby getting fiddled by Uncle MJ.

OP, many biracial black babies come out look really pale like that. He probably will darken up a bit. Hell I can't out extremely light skin and now am a medium brown complexion.

And as r6 points out, has the Jackson's beautiful afro centric nose.

Wentworth Miller looks white...and yet he's a mulatto just like that baby

I'm not white. I was pretty "white" the first year of my life. Thankfully, I developed my beautiful, bronze color.

Why is that baby so big? And just as I said, NO! She most certainly did not carry that baby and she is not the mother of that baby. Damn, she and Michael, crazy nut cases.

Her original nose really was so cute. I recently watched the Diffrent Strokes series almost all the way through, and you can tell when something sort of went wrong with her, it coincided w the nose job. Everything became "off", she lost her swagger.

That is a white baby and there is no doubt about that. Just as none of Michael's children are his biological children, this is not Janet's biological child and she most certainly did not carry it. Some of you are soooooo stupid!

R16, you are naive and silly.

A Blind Item/Gossip Site stated months ago that a famous pop star who was getting older knew that her upcoming tour was going to be a flop, so she shut everything down, told the press that she was pregnant, but in reality she was adopting a baby in secrecy.

Oh c'mon folks, seriously??? That child is white. This substantiates the rumors that it was a faked pregnancy.

The baby has blond hair! From which parent did this child get its blond hair?

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It's fascinating...do their friends just go along with it and pretend??

Janet is suspect because of Michael's antics, and because she and Wissam are of similar complexion.

But it's not exactly impossible:

Is it obvious to everyone else that Wissam is clearly a closet case?

r20 must be delusional. Sad.

r31, I know I'm starting to think the same thing. He was never married or even really linked to women before Janet. Same thing with Mariah's billionaire ex. I'm always suspect about filthy rich guys who date aged popstars. Too much drama. Most rich guys want hot poon without the baggage.

I'm a caramel colored black person, my parents said I looked positively Asian at least until I was 1.

The old white people here have never seen black, Hispanic, or biracial babies as newborns and infants. This is common. The baby will develop color later.

R35 Bitch, the baby has BLOND hair. NO, most babies of black parents are not WHITE. That's absurd.

Look, R35 , it's another white baby of black parents!!

I've seen black babies that are almost white-looking when they're newborns. Plus he's half Arab so not totally black anyway

The first hour after being born, not a month later!!

That's a big baby. Wasn't it just born?

R40, no, sometimes it's a year or even longer. I was very, very light when I was a baby, even a toddler. I was still lighter in my early primary school years than I am now.

Posting black babies who are brown does not prove anything. I have seen dozens of children born in my family. It varies.

I asked a pediatrician friend of mine about this---particularly your claims that black babies are often born white---and she says it is complete bullshit. She saw the Janet Jackson photos and she doesn't think the child is black, either.

r33 I do not believe James Packer is gay. He's been known to be a giant sleazebag around women around the Aussie society life. But Wissam, let's see..... -Deeply religious

- Prominent Middle Eastern family

- Comes from generations of wealth and power in Qatar

- He's a self-proclaimed fashionista and his bio states his love of fashion started from a young age

- This face says it all. Does this not look like a gay and his hag?

That is the main reason I could never like Janet, she is a huge liar, she rivals Trump but at least she did not run for president. She has always been a liar, samecas Michael, the Jackson family is as damn sick as the Trump family.

I have seen many mixed race babies in my own family. As I said from the beginning, Janet was not pregnant she is too damn old to put herself in danger and her baby in danger. As usual, a Jackson lies about their baby. No I will change that, a celebrity lies about their baby. It is the norm. There are always women willing to sell their bodies and their babies.

so wait, this baby is on CPT and his black skin is gonna show up later?

Yeah, this reminds me the white store attendant who came right out and asked me if my son's father was white. Get informed people. If you see a light to medium brown adult black person, chances are they were very light as a baby. My granddaughter, born in July, still looks completely white. Geez, we don't all start out dark. Not that there's anything wrong with it.

R43, sure you did and we are talking about a biracial child. On top of that, some of them are born with straight hair that completely changes texture months down the line. I would post my own baby photos and present day pictures if this site weren't what it is. Sad.

God, some of the people here are so dumb. Black infants, biracial infants are commonly born with light skin.

I do find it hard to believe that Janet is the bio mom of her infant. She likely used an egg donor or had an embryo transfer or perhaps used a surrogate.

Thanks r51, I posted above you. Hair is also straight, for now. Whatever she turns out to look like, I couldn't care less. She's my first grandchild, she's healthy and happy. Love her to pieces.

Maybe this is why race relations in the US are deteriorating. No one seems to understand anything about other races or are willing to learn. You have black posters on here telling you things and you don't want to listen. I'm biracial and looked totally white until I was about 5 and my Mum was thought to be my governess.

Even if that child does not have a bit of Janet's DNA, that nose reveals some sort of black lineage.

Like most celebrities, Janet probably had her eggs frozen years ago which allowed her to have her own child on her own terms.

We already had this discussion with Beyonce's baby, remember? Blue Ivy was born very light and it took a good year before she darkened.

Can't you just put 'em the oven and brown 'em up a bit?

Im white with younger adopted siblings (1 black, 1 biracial) who were weeks/months old when they came to our house and I can confirm they were very light as babies and then got darker. Not as white as the kid in this photo but pretty pale/ashy.

Another retarded OP.

You white people obviously don't understand how the melanin in black and mixed children works. When they are born they are often pale. Melanin comes later. The ignorance in here is astounding.

So, God gives you a white baby but then changes his mind?

[quote]Why is that baby so big?

He's three months old and the well fed, well nourished child of two wealthy parents.

Were you actually born this dumb?

The child has a white father (yes, despite DL trolls, Arabs are white) and an African-American mother. Most African-Americans themselves have mixed ancestries, with white and sometimes, native American genes. My ex-BF has beautiful high cheekbones and a wonderful mahogany skin, since he his mother also brought some Cherokee blood to the family. Why are people so stubborn in their stupidity? And, for the non-white people who post here, I 'm sorry that you get to read shit like this, but thank you for calling things out and being honest. And yes, I'm white.

I doubt Janet is totally black herself. I'd bet that she's around a third white.

no way that baby is theirs. it's too white. the baby's father's complexion isn't white.

[quote][R35] Bitch, the baby has BLOND hair. NO, most babies of black parents are not WHITE.

You fucktard moron.

Robin Thicke and Paula Patton have a blonde kid.

Quincy Jones's daughters look white and have sandy hair.

Victoria Rowell's daughter has blonde hair and looks white.

[quote]I doubt Janet is totally black herself. I'd bet that she's around a third white.

I always thought a young Katherine looked as though she had some Asian in her lineage...

In that photo at r57, Blue Ivy looked like she still had a chance to be pretty someday. Glad I didn't bet on it.

Well if the kid isn't biologically hers why are the Jacksons obsessed with having white offspring. joe fucked them children up, majorly.

What color was Janet's daughter when she was born?

The reason why some people, even when faced with irrefutable evidence to the contrary, rabidly maintain that a black parent cannot have a very light skinned or white apprearing baby is because the whole notion messes with their strictly enforced paradigm about separation of the races. Imagine going through your entire racist life, pretending to be tolerant and open, meanwhile, behind closed doors, revealing your true racist attitudes to what you thought was a like minded audience. It's got to be a mind fuck and a half to try and mentally go back to every conversation you ever had, knowing the cat's probably out of the bag.

r57 Bey was probably thanking Jesus and feeling like Blue dodge a bullet when that picture was taken. Little did Bey know....

janet jackson is only "white" is because she uses skin products to whiten her skin like her bro michael.

Janet now ex husband is olive skin not white. Her son will not be white or pale but darker light skinned. The surrogate mom is probably the same skin tone as the father.

Baby's hair is not blonde it's brown.. take out your yellow and your brown crayons and compare. See? Not blonde.

R66 Victoria is also half white and the father of her daughter is fully white, so this isn't really a great comparison.

Persia White and her daughter, Mecca.

White, black, whatever, he's a beautiful baby.

R49, that baby daddy ain't buying it. I wonder if his friends bring up the fact that his baby is white.

"Man, ain't that some shit."

R56 Question...how do we KNOW that the people saying they're black and/or biracial actually ARE black and/or biracial? Eh? Anonymous message board, hon. They could be whiter than snow.

Oh God...here comes SJW R71 to lecture us all on how we're racists, and evil, and worse than Hitler because we question whether or not that's Janet's kid. after umpteen rumors she faked the pregnancy with a husband who looks gayer than Crisco.

Take the stick out of your ass, cunt, you're fucking annoying.

And you know what REALLY hurts "race relations"? Here it is.

we're on a self proclaimed bitchy gossip board (FOR GAY PEOPLE) having a silly, fun conversation about where baby cracker barrel actually belongs to one of the insane Jacksons, and her husband, the gay hand puppet from the Ed Sullivan Show.

Suddenly, it becomes a faux "Black Lives Matter" rally, with white people, who are pretending to be black, screaming at the gossipers that we are worse then the Klan. you know, that kind of bullshit really brings people together. NOT.

So enough, thanks. Go have your fucking SJW rally somewhere in tranny-ville. Leave the silly fun bitches alone.

Why on earth would anyone believe this Baby is Janet jacksons biological kid?!?! She's 50.

R84 Bingo. And the gay-faced husband.

If we can believe Jake is gay, we can believe Janet found the baby in cabbage patch.

Making fun of a baby isn't "silly fun" cuntbag @ r83. This is not a "Black Lives Matter" rally. Pure ignorance should not be celebrated, especially on a GAY MESSAGE BOARD.

r43, your pediatrician friend needs her license to be taken away, if she's even a real pediatrician.

On the plus side, I know Janet will not raise her son to be an ignorant ass tool, like some of your mothers have.

Folks, please F+F this asshole at R87. This is the kind of shithead who's ruining this site!!

Get some therapy cunt, you desperately need it!!!

Arabs most certainly are NOT white. They don't consider themselves white. And with good reason, because they're not.

Do Persians consider themselves white?

R90 Oh brother. Honey, you're missing your "I love trannies!" meeting!! Better hurry!

No R92. Arabs are a mixed race people.

A fun discussion about the baby not being Janet's is fine. But your argument that the baby isn't hers because it has a light complexion is a silly argument. You can argue all day that the kid isn't Janet's, she is 50 that's all the argument you need. (Even though my grandma had her change of life baby at 52 back in 1964). There is a difference between having fun and being stupid.

R95 GO AWAY CUNT. Seriously, go the fuck away. This is a bitchy gossip board. Go find a fucking SJW reddit board to push your bullshit.

Did she use Michaels dermatologist for the father?

Not surprised.The Jackson family isn't black-black and the guy she fucked to make her baby isn't black.

First off that baby was not new born, unless the mother was an elephant, that big headed baby was not getting through the birth canal.. And no, that was not a half black baby and yes, I most certainly know a black baby when I see one and I sure as hell would like to know what Michael and Janet have against black babies.

I love it when people go to the bitchy gossip board place, like that is supposed to excuse people for being stupid. No. Get a grip. And some of you really need to get out in the world a little bit more.

R96 is actually relishing in his ignorance. No offense to the older posters, but his age is bleeding from each post. He likes fake news because it makes him "lol". No friends, no life.

"Arab" is a media-created meaningless designation for a variety of ethno-racial inhabitants of North Africa and the Near/Middle East.

Of course some black babies and mixed race babies look light/lighter when they are born and get darker later.

But THIS baby, is NOT THAT!!! This is clearly a european baby that looks nothing like its african-american mother or Arab father.

It's not JUST the shade of skin.

if you can't see that, you probably think Paris and Prince I are MJ's bio kids too.

A fair skinned infant isn't the least bit surprising... For many mixed babies, the melanin takes longer to come in... Also, the Jackson have had fair skinned lineages; Joseph's mother Crystal was quite fair-skinned, and his father was part Native Indian. Joe even has light-colored eyes, so people expecting a "black baby" especially when Janet didn't mate with a black man -- are to be in for a surprise.

And I guess some of you think any of Michael's kids was actually his?? What a bunch of dumb fucks.

Jackson will save a fortune in hydroquinone.

A black baby will look black.

R106 I don't know what that pic is supposed to prove, but it looks like a typical black woman. And not a fair skinned one either.

What a knockout @R106. That's Joe Jackson's mother?

Janet Jackson is full of shit! The Jacksons are always so proud to be "black", yet will do anything to have lighter skin and white babies. They are a bunch of self hating assholes! They niggas and they know it! I can say dat too... Imma nigga!

Cute baby whatever color he is. But Janet still has those cheekbones despite getting a lot heavier? Implants.

Janet is a beautiful woman, always has been, but that kid is not her biological child...Janet lives a lie and always has, I don't know why she can never be honest about anything.

People need to ignore the trolls.

The baby obviously is Janet's. The nose is a big giveaway. Also it's true, 'Arabs' are caucasian. Mixed that with Janet's African American background (African, Native american and european) and you'll have a baby that looks like that. I want to thank r67 for posting that photo of Katherine Jackson. From that picture you can tell there is a strong Native American presence in their lineage.

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[quote]Also it's true, 'Arabs' are caucasian.

Rubbish! They can be anything from pale Caucasian to darkest African, depending on what country they live in. And that's exactly why 'Arab' is a misnomer.

What an adorable little Lesbian!

[quote]Arabs most certainly are NOT white. They don't consider themselves white. And with good reason, because they're not.

I know a Syrian family, Arabs are most definitely white. A few famous Arab Americans:

Doug Flutie, Casey Kesem, Tony Shalhoub, Frank Zappa, John Abizaid, Darrell Issa, John Sununu, Donna Shalala, Ralph Nader, John Zogby, Steve Jobs, Paul Anka, Paula Abdul, Paul Jabara, Kathy Najimy, Shannon Elizabeth, Dean Obeidallah ... all white. I'm guessing it's the same old-timers that used to not consider Italians as not white that are saying the same about Arabs.

R104 that doesn't look like a white baby TO ME. That is not the same hue of fair skin as white babies who tend to have pink undertones. The baby looks like it will be brown.

Latoya probably looked like this when she was baby as well.

I blocked the sjw creeps, and it feels good!

I posted this video on another thread one can clearly see that biracial couples can indeed have white looking babies,see the pictures at 7:11, she is explaining that people thought the girl was going to darken but instead she started to become blonde. the funny thing about genes is that most of my family are blonds, my father looks scandinavian and my mother southern european and I came up with very pasty skin color, thick black eyesbrows,very hairy,black hair and eyes like very mediterranean looking. So I guess genes do whatever the fuck they want

[quote]silly, fun conversation about where baby cracker barrel actually belongs to one of the insane Jacksons

This is where you lost me. You're talking about a woman who you only know from media reports on her and her family. You don't know her personally and you never will. So fuck you and your "silly fun" and shut the fuck up.

Happily FFd the asshole at R83/R96

Yes, R11, that's Joe's mother/Janet's grandmother Crystal-Lee King (1900-1992). The Jacksons have some mixed heritage (European/Native) especially from Joseph's side, given his father Samuel Jackson (1893-1992) is part Native. It's obvious Janet's baby has the pre-surgery Jackson nose

And just in case some troll mentions it, no I don't believe MJ fathered any of his kids. The only one that looks potentially non-white is Bigi/Blanket, and I doubt he was the biological father..

Pic of Joseph's father:

[quote]First off that baby was not new born

He's the well-nourished three month old baby of two wealthy parents. The end.

Janet was in shape at her last show in Dubai before dr ordered bed rest. When she emerged again months later, she was considerably heavier and had a baby bump. Now the kid is here. These things don't take rocket scientists to figure out.

And for the morons who think a 50 year old woman could never have a baby, tell that to Adrienne Barbeau, who had twins at 50.

R123 AND?? We're talking about Janet's kid. Can you SJW's take your bullshit ELSEWHERE?

R127 Obvious? To whom?

Are you really going to pretend that the Jacksons don't lighten their skin? Seriously??

R123 Janet's husband is Swedish? Really? You do understand that an inter-racial couple where one partner is blond and fair is NOT the genetic dynamic with this couple?

R127 you are delusional. The kid isn't Janet's regardless of her great grandparents small portion of Native American heritage.

I don't see any other of the Jackson families (bio) offspring taking on their great grandparents minuscule Native American skin tone..

LaToya and Marlon have always been light. Jackie and Michael (pre...whatever) have always been brown. Janet and Randy fall somewhere in the middle. Many BLACK immediate families have lighter and browner members. The Cosby dynamic is a real thing.

To uniformed white people: black peoples don't all fall under one magical, mystical completion scheme. We come in a spectrum of colors.

R134 He's not light, he's white

I'm giving reasons why the baby isn't as dark as many of you clearly expected him to be... And it takes some time for the melanin to come in for mixed babies, but clearly you didn't know that.

[quote]I don't see any other of the Jackson families (bio) offspring taking on their great grandparents minuscule Native American skin tone

Because you haven't been looking. Ever see Tito's MIXED sons?

He's a fucking baby r136 with no identity yet

That is a white Caucasian child. Period.

Who knows who the mother is but it's not Janet Jackson.

We went through this with Beyoncé. You all were saying that Blue wasn't hers or Jay's. The baby came out and looked like Beyoncé then changed to look like Jay.

This baby is a biracial child with Janet's old black nose. You've seen one photo, you don't know what the lighting was like, and you're ignoring what all of the black posters are saying. But it's clearly a bunch of flyover posters who have never seen a black person outside of a TV.

The baby is not pink like most white infants are, and he has a black person's nose. He is a mixed child. The people who are fighting this obvious reality are assholes of Trump-ian proportions.

[quote]But it's clearly a bunch of flyover posters who have never seen a black person outside of a TV.

THIS.

r142 are you looking at another person's baby? because this one is pink.

Since When did DL become Lipstick Alley??

This is also why white men could impregnate black slaves back in the day so easily. By the time they could tell the baby didn't have a black father, the owner could sell the woman and her child off to another plantation. This exactly what happened to my ancestor from South Carolina. Luckily this was right before the Civil War, and she went off and made a home outside the confederacy. So you bitches need to stop with your jokes about her baby. Its a diss to black women everywhere who were used and then ripped away from their families.

^^Right. Some gay men are sometimes maddeningly blind to prejudice and discrimination if it doesn't directly affect them.

I only know one thing for sure and it is that the arab guy is freaking hot, now lets see if he gets married again after using this bitch as a baby factory, if not, then he is family

Paula Abdul and Paul Anka are Jewish btw. Not Arab.

Will this crap ever die out?

Black and bi-racial babies may look very light when they are born.

But THIS PARTICULAR BABY is clearly NOT the baby of these two parents.

The baby has a black nose and black lips. Let's revisit this thread in one year and see what happens. Janet probably froze her own eggs years ago. They may have even found viable eggs when she first got with him in her early 40s. Women are still fertile at 40-44. My mother had her last at 42. He most likely made a biological heir a must-have early on and she gave him that.

[quote]Abdul was born in San Fernando, California, to Jewish parents. Abdul's father, Harry Abdul, was born into the Syrian-Jewish community in Aleppo, Syria, was raised in Brazil, and subsequently emigrated to the United States.[6] Her mother, the concert pianist Lorraine M. Rykiss, grew up in one of the two Jewish families in Minnedosa, Manitoba, and has Ashkenazi Jewish ancestors from Ukraine

[quote]Anka was born in Ottawa, Ontario, to Camelia (née Tannis) and Andrew Emile "Andy" Anka, Sr., who owned a restaurant called the Locanda.[2] His parents were both Antiochian Orthodox Christians.[3] Anka's father (Andy) was Syrian-American from ’Uyūn al-Wādī from the Na'Nou' family and his mother (Camelia) was Canadian-Lebanese "from the town of Kfarmishki, in Lebanon.

Paula Abdul is mixed Arab and Jewish while Paul Anka has two Arab parents.

Must be stratospherically high yellow!

Why did the racist fag natzis cross out the very appropriate R146?

This is also why white men could impregnate black slaves back in the day so easily. By the time they could tell the baby didn't have a black father, the owner could sell the woman and her child off to another plantation. This exactly what happened to my ancestor from South Carolina. Luckily this was right before the Civil War, and she went off and made a home outside the confederacy. So you bitches need to stop with your jokes about her baby. Its a diss to black women everywhere who were used and then ripped away from their families.

This is a conversation that doesn't need to exist. Just position ones self is adding flames to the fire of racism.

Face it, we're all racist, or we wouldn't have opinions on this post.

Shit-for-brains @R150, what you just said was the equivalent of "He's not Hispanic, he's a Buddhist."

Arab is not a religion and Jewish is not an ethnicity.

There are Arab Jews, dumbass. Just like there are Russian and Ethiopian Jews. In fact, they're about the only Jews (along with the Iranuan ones) who actually belong in the Middle East.

How in the hell do you get to your age and stupidly write that and think it even made sense?

r95, I agree with you 100%. There are legitimate reasons why this baby may not be Janets, skin tone isn't one of them. Some of you don't realize how light skin black babies come out. The baby is not pale and has black features.

R158 Oh yes, everyone's a racist, dumbass. Jesus.

Go jump in a fire, cunt, seriously.

Honestly, discussions online get policed like crazy now, even on a gossip board. It's insane.

[159]There are Arab Jews, dumbass. Just like there are Russian and Ethiopian Jews. In fact, they're about the only Jews (along with the Iranuan ones) who actually belong in the Middle East.

Wrong. DNA testing has proven that all Jews---Ashkenazi (European), Sephardic (Spanish) and Mizrahi (Middle Eastern) are ALL related and from the same people. ALL Jews belong in the middle east based on ancestry.

Judaism is both a religion and an ethnicity moron.

Before the baby was even born, rumors swirled that her pregnancy was fake. Hence the discussion now.

R154 [quote]Paula Abdul is mixed Arab and Jewish

Read your own quote. Paula Abdul is 100% Jewish. Both her Mother and Father.

[quote]Before the baby was even born, rumors swirled

That's all they were. RUMORS. She was obviously pregnant. You don't go from being in shape like she was when she was on tour to gaining a lot of weight and a baby bump in a small amount of time. She even had that pregnancy thing going on with her lips that all expectant moms get.

That's something I don't get about being Jewish. It's a religion, but why do people always say so and so has a Jew fro, or so and so looks Jewish, as though they are ethnically inherited traits?

Janet was probably never pregnant. I will not waste my time defending the Jackson family since they are full of secrets and nuts. Why are the Jackson fans so stupid, most will probably argue that mj is the biological father of Prince, paris, and blanket. Why are most of you so worked up defending that weird ass family. They don't want negro babies, just look at the grandchildren.

MJ's kids are definitely not biologically his, but this is Janet's child. Stop being willfully stupid.

That baby might be related to the father, but it does not appear to have a single ounce of the Jackson's DNA.

r166 this is so fucking delusional i can't even handle it.

What's hilarious is that you people who don't believe it's her baby are indignant about it, as if you KNOW for a fact, all else be damned. LOL, get the fuck out of here with that bullshit. None of you know fuck all.

At least Blu Ivy looked just like Jay Z and Beyoncé, when she popped out of the surrogate's uterus. There was never any doubt that the little girl was 100% Jay Z's and Beyoncé's.

Looking at this little boy, there isn't ONE single characteristic that says "Jackson". Not one. And in case any of you have forgotten, the Jacksons are VERY dark, with VERY black features, and VERY nappy, kinky hair. This kid has none of these traits.

Time will tell, as usual. This family is as self-loathing as it gets, and I don't think Janet wanted a black baby.

Black people being so invested in that child being black is what is really strange about this thread. That is someones mixed race baby but not Janets or her husbands that is for sure. As for Janet being pregnant her dressing like an Islamic Teletubby does not a pregnancy make. Clearly Micheal was not the only nutbag in the family.

Is Janet remaking my Black or White video?

[quote]the Jacksons are VERY dark, with VERY black features, and VERY nappy, kinky hair. This kid has none of these traits.

Spoken just like an ignorant white person. Very dark? Are you crazy? The darkest one is probably Jackie and even he is not coal black. The Jacksons range from medium brown skinned to light skinned. Joe is not even close to dark skinned and neither is Katherine. Some of you idiots should really think before you put fingers to keyboard.

[quote]Black people being so invested in that child being black is what is really strange about this thread.

No. White people insisting that a light baby with a black person's nose and lips is not black because of his lack of melanin is what is strange about this thread.

While I have doubts that this baby is Janet's and Wissam's, as a white person who has seen many black newborns I can attest that black babies are usually born MUCH lighter than they eventually turn out to be.

I have seen a couple who were Tyrese Gibson's shade have an infant who was almost white at birth. Now, he had some African features, and one would not have taken him to be Caucasian, but based on skin color alone, yes---he could have been taken to be white.

I know that melanin is produced in the pineal gland, and I guess it takes a while for that gland to completely being the baby to its eventual shade. I am somewhat disappointed in the other white folks here who seem to think they know more about it than the Black folks.

Again though, I am not at all certain that the child is Janet's--but it's not because of the color or the features. It's difficult to believe anything which comes out of a Jackson's mouth at this point.

I'll go ahead and entertain the idea that the baby is mixed with black just to appease the situation. But none of that DNA is from Jan.

Yes, I too have seen AA babies who are very light or almost white at birth. Mixed babies can and do come out white. Some stay white, depending on the ancestry of the parents. I'd wager that if the Prince and Megan Markle wed, and had children, the odds of those children looking caucasian are pretty darn good.

I know that is is the case, however, I agree with r181.

What the hell would make you think that the average white person knows what black babies look like at birth? That doesn't make me stupid, it makes me a normal white person.

So many first time posters in this thread. Amazing.

Are people in this thread all experiencing early stages of of dementia or something? That is not blond hair by any stretch of the imagination. The baby also clearly takes after his father. You can tell he's going to have his father's big Arab nose. So far he has the father's complexion too.

R183 We don't think you or other white people are stupid for not knowing what black or biracial babies look like at birth. We think you're stupid because when black and biracial folks try to enlighten you about the subject you dismiss us as if we don't know what we're talking about. Did you read the whole thread? It's full of white people telling black and biracial folks how wrong we are about something you just admitted you know nothing about.

I'm thinking that the the troll in this thread is actually a Lipstick Alley migrant. The aggressive, argumentative behavior screams illegal Lipstick alley immigrant. I doubt most white people give a shit about this subject.

Plus most people are aware that mixed-race (black and white) people can look white, particularly if the black parent is not fully black (Wentworth Miller is pretty popular here). I like making fun of Janet because it's fun, but this argument is absurd. Anyway, the baby is cute. Hopefully, he'll stay that way.

[quote]I like making fun of Janet because it's fun

It's fun? What on earth would make making fun of a woman as benign as Janet Jackson something you'd enjoy? I can see if she was a known caustic bitch or a fragile mess like so many of her contemporaries, but this is a woman who, by all intents and purposes, is relatively normal. And before you say anything stupid (as if you haven't already), a half second tit flash does not an abnormal person make.

Janbot, calm down gurl. Making fun of aging pop stars is a DL pastime and there is nothing you can do about it.

Blanket is Hispanic and none of Michael's genes. Janet's baby does not have her genes, either. I have no idea why Michael and Janet seemed to hate being black. If you look at Healey Berry's child, you can see that she has African genes, even though the child is three quarters white.

Yes I have have seen black that seem to be white but that baby is not Janet's, except through adoption.

By the way that mother with that extremely pale child. That is not her biological mother. Somebody had a white egg implanted.

[quote] is relatively normal

HAHAHAHA

It's probably too early to tell but since the baby is paler than both the mother and the father there's probably something going on.

At 50 years old, most women are in menopause or are pre menopausal so it's pretty much impossible for them to have a natural birth. Her eggs unless she saved them when she was young would also be too old to be useful. With that being said, you have to immediately assume that this was not a natural pregnancy and due to Janet's age that she probably had someone else's eggs implanted in her. That someone else's eggs could be a white woman or someone of more mixed race like an Alicia Keys type that could produce a lighter baby.

Using the pictures of the other biracial Jackson kids actually detract from the argument that this is Janet's natural child. While the kids are obviously biracial, they do not have the white and hispanic looks of Michael's kids nor the looks of this white baby. And using someone like Paula Patton as an argument is dumb since Paula is herself half white which means that there was always a chance that her baby would inherit the genes from the white side of her family. It's very possible for a biracial person to have a white looking child but Janet Jackson is not biracial and had a lot of her African features plastic surgeried out of her just like Michael did.

R119 an Arab married into my family, trust me, they are not white, they don't consider themselves white. Some may be lighter, and some may be darker, that is because they are a mixed race people, like I said before. They are not white in the sense that American people mean when we say white. Ask a Palestinian if he's white. I dare you.

It's not black people arguing here, it's white people who think they're being liberal by calling everyone a racist. No black person would waste their time, or diminish the civil rights movement, by making this gossip into a cause. It's privileged white peoople pretending.

Did Debbie Rowe have something to do with this -- donate an egg?

It makes perfect sense that the baby might be a lighter shade and still be a Jackson. You bitches act like you know what shade the mother is. I'm pretty sure none of you have any idea how light Janet's daughter might be....

That whole family is so weird.

That picture is horrifying. It looks like some bizarre Botox phantom who goes out when the moon is full and derives its life force from kissing white babies.

Now THAT'S something we can all agree on R198.

I wonder of the ladies of Lipstick Alley talk about us over there?

I guess some of them have Google Alert, because whenever we have a Janet or Beyonce thread, you can depend on some of them to show up.

I enjoy their site whenever someone here links to it, but I don't visit LSA on other occasions. JMHO, but they seem a lot brighter and less racist towards whites than the other urban sites I am familiar with.

r174, Exactly, Beyonce would never be so desperate. Some of you think everyone wants to be white. There are plenty of black celebs who grew up in middle class homes, with high self esteem. Beyonce is uber rich and perhaps the most powerful person in music. You think she cares if her off spring has a big nose or even fugly. she's filthy rich, and she didn't sell out her sound or culture to become the most influential woman in pop music.

Beyonce the most influential woman in pop music.?

What a JOKE!

Maybe the daughter she gave away was white looking too when she was born?

Maybe the baby looks white because Janet had an anal birth.

Why isn't there more talk about the size of the baby? Seriously, his birth was delayed by months, and now he's shown to be about 5 months old.

R174, has the AIDS related cataracts caught on yet? Even before all of the bleach, the Jacksons were not "VERY" dark. Are you stupid?

It is not uncommon at all for the baby to be lighter than both parents. Do you know ANY black people? Not even a co-worker? Holy fuck.

Oh shut up, r210. No one gives a shit. I don't know any black people that well. So what? I guess I'm a bad SJW.

He does look a bit older than he is supposed to be,

I think Hannah on Girls got their baby

R211, then STFU if you don't know anything. You don't know a God damned thing about the world and it's pathetic. Apparently, a person is a SJW for correcting your "facts". Fucking cunt with a bottomless well of dumbass Republican qualities.

Janet Jackson was never a dark skinned girl. Where you people get off saying that she couldn't possibly have a light child and describing her and her family as if they're Grace Jones-black is a mystery to me.

Eissa clearly has her original nose.

Bobby Brown once kicked Janet Jackson out of a hotel room naked:

[quote]“She loved me but wasn’t in love with me,” Brown said, adding that the Rhythm Nation singer told him, [bold]“My father won’t allow me to be with a black man.” [/bold]At that, Brown wrote in his book, he kicked her out of the hotel room where they had been “lying in bed after having sex.” “I exploded and I threw her out,” he penned.

Look at the pictures of 80s Janet in the video at this link. Fucked up, self-hating family, the Jacksons, similar to Tiger Woods. None of their third generation is dark-skinned, by the way, and that was on purpose.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

The kid looks Arab to me---right through the eye area.

Here's Janet's natural skin tone. She's lightened herself a LOT.

That said, I wouldn't blame her if she adopted or used someone else's genetic material. If I had relatives like hers, I'd rather have any random gene pool in my offspring than that of Joe Jackson. And Michael Jackson. Stop any random person on the street and you'll have a better chance of getting a sane child.

i have a friend who knew the Jacksons in the 80s. All of them would bleach their skin. They had porcelain bleach cream delivered by the boat load. It probably caused Mike's vitiligo. Janet stopped around her Thats the Way Love goes days.

Janet's got makeup on. She didn't bleach her skin. This kid has a black nose to boot. He looks a lot like his father. I don't see a lot of her. Not saying she ain't the mother though. I am saying that that kid is definitely not white though and not simply Arab.

Oh, and that ain't no 5 month old baby. It's 3. Gay men don't have kids for a reason. I swear. lol

[quote]I don't know any black people that well. So what? I guess I'm a bad SJW.

No, that would be racism, dear.

I was going to put this in the Motown thread but it's more awful here... Born in Detroit on 19th February 1940 to African American parents, the infant Robinson had blonde hair, blue eyes and a fair complexion. William’s great grandmother had been a white Frenchwoman and he inherited her green blue eyes. The hospital’s nursery segregated infants into ‘black’ and ‘white.’ The nurses placed the Robinson’s child in the white nursery to the anguish of his father who couldn’t find him as result. Smokey wrote in his biography Inside My Life: “Can you imagine the stupidity of segregating little babies? And the nurses – black and white – were giggling behind Mama’s, figuring that this black woman had just given birth to a white baby.” His father would not tolerate their racism and as a result Smokey wrote “my own iubirth made minor social history”

RAs a child, William was fixated with cowboy movies. After one trip to the cinema his Uncle asked him “How’d like the picture Smokey Joe?” Thinking it was a reference to the picture, the boy adopted Smokey as his new nickname. But his Uncle’s ironic aside contained a deeper message. Dark-skinned black people in Detroit were often called ‘smokey’. William – still blonde-haired and blue-eyed – was anything but ‘smokey.’ He later reflected “in doing this he was saying don’t ever forget you’re black.”

^Useful.. Not awful.. I know I typed useful dammit.. Lol^

What the f**k is wrong with most of the black posters in this thread. Most of you sound like dumbass. Yes I am black bitch before you accuse me of been white. The jacksons hate your negro asses and that is why they don't want to have black babies. They don't mind getting your coin since most of you are easily manipulated but like her deceased brother she probably used a none black surrogate. I will be very shocked if the baby starts looking biracial as he gets older.

I just remember Janet saying she was close to Michael and his kids but Blanket was a year old and she had not met him yet...now is that close?, they lived a couple of hours away from each other. A very sick family. And no, that is not Janet's biological kid. I don't like celebrities who constantly treat the fans as if they are stupid and will believe anything...pretty much the way Trump treats his fans.

They adopted a Blatino baby.

How does a black father forbid his black daughter from dating black men. Taught his other kids the same. Sick, sick family.

^^If you believe what Bobby Brown wrote in that book then I'VE got a bridge to sell YOU.

I don't know who's kid he really is, but her cheek implants look horrific jutting out if that post baby-fat (HaHaHa) face. They look like chicken wing bones.

That boy is whiter than Ivory Snow.

I'm black, with a very light complexion. My Grandparents had eight kids. Four were practically white (my Mother included) and the other four were various shades of brown. My Grandparents was very color struck. My Mother tells us that they were forbidden to even look at anyone darker than a brown paper bag. She also tells me that the clubs they belonged to and the friends they had, all were the same way. And let's not even go down the road of good hair versus bad hair.

So many of you assume things about black people based on information that , I have no idea where you're getting it from. You put us in boxes. As a people we're just a complicated as anyone else. With our own prejudices within and outside our own communities and we have our own crazy and yes even our babies can be born very light.

Some of this stuff would be interesting discussion topics, but it always devolves into the madness we see in this thread.

For the fool at R235, Janet's cheeks are always pronounced. They've been that way since she was a kid...

And are the same whether she's chunky...

Why does it even matter? The US is so color obesessed and it really ruins this country. While different races have their own cultural identities, our color doesn't make us that different from one another. Our cultural differences should be seen as something to celebrate and not use against one another.

I am a gay, white, professionally educated man with no religious affiliation with a "Type A" personality when it comes to my work ethic and the general pace of my life.

Substitute any race or color in the above sentence and I could be friends with that person. I could have a relationship and fall in love with that person. I don't even think I would notice that the person were of a different race than I am.

However, change any of the other parameters, and I would not identify with that person. Straights and women can be fun to hang out with, but they would never be among my BEST friends and I certainly wouldn't identify fully with them. I really don't want to associate with religious zealots at all. I cannot stand to be around lazy, uneducated, or poor people who do nothing to better their situations.

Even her baby is bored by her.

[quote]Even her baby is bored by her.

But not as bored as we are with you're hackneyed joke, which was just as lame when it was used upthread.

people are suspicious because the Jacksons are notoriously deceptive people especially about race.

Whatever Michael Jackson's true color, there's no doubt that he subjected himself to numerous plastic surgical procedures (to look more caucasian). The same is true of the rest of those Jacksons like Jermaine, Latoya & janet. You just have to compare their childhood photos to their adult ones to know this is true. Michael Jackson also used a surrogate for his 3 children that each look like different races.

Please stop acting like it's so out there to believe that Janet Jackson bought herself a white baby. Yes there are biracial people who look white like Rashida Jones and maybe you have your own personal stories like some of posted. That doesn't erase the fact that the Jacksons are a kooky family capable of anything and a 50 year old woman is not going to become pregnant naturally. It's very doubtful that that baby is biologically her. The baby may have even been adopted.

R244 is correct. Yes, biracial babies can be an astonishing range of colors, but the Jacksons are insane and self-loathing and this baby's light skin is unlikely to be random natural variation. She didn't have conceive this baby naturally, not at her age, and she probably paid for some light-skinned genetic material. AND male genetic material, her husband's culture insists that he have a son.

And her cheeks may be natural, but she's whittled her nose down to such a tiny little nubbin that everything about her face looks out of proportion as a result.

Y'know if this was ANYBODY but Janet Jackson, I would give this a pass (no pun intended), but then again this is JANET JACKSON we're talking about here.

Janet's son, Elissa, age progressed to 25

[quote]a 50 year old woman is not going to become pregnant naturally.

Who said she had it naturally? Janet likely had her eggs frozen a while ago. When she had that secret surgery in late 2015 that got her fans upset and led the media to put out a false cancer story, it was likely to get those eggs implanted, hence the reason she asked for prayers from her fans. The surgery took, and her doctor ordered her on bed rest a couple of months later, which was why her Dubai show was her last before she postponed her tour.

OP What are you talking about? She has a white nephew and niece.

So Janet decided midway through a tour that she was gonna get impregnated knowing that if it "took" she'd screw fans out of the show they paid tickets for?

"That is a white baby and there is no doubt about that."

Why, because of skin tone? So stupid. Look, given the craziness of the Jacksons, I'm not beyond possibly believing that somehow this isn't JJ's baby (though at this point I think it is). I'm just saying that his light color as of now is horrible evidence that it's not hers.

Block the two stupid Lipstick Alley migrants GIFing and AHAHAing each other and half the thread disappear. Are those cunts the same ones making the FEUD thread unbearable ?

[quote] Halle Berry as a baby..

This is the most frightening picture I've ever seen. I would have thrown that monster out of the nearest window.

No, R253 you're wrong. It isn't two people (it's one) and it's not an LSA Migrant. It is native to this place. At least it has been for some time.

There are plenty of black people who are very color sensitive and I think it is revolting and disgusting and ignorant...it still doesn't mean that Janet or Michael had white biological kids. They most certainly did not. The whole thought of their racist attitudes make me sick. All of those children should have DNA test so they can come to terms with the racism of their parents.

[quote]Are those cunts the same ones making the FEUD thread unbearable ?

r253, I'm glad you brought that up. FEUD was practically a love letter to the veteran Dataloungers who have been here since the WTC was an insatiable bottom, and instead, it was hijacked and shat all over by vacuous twinks who think they're black women. Where the hell did they come from?

[quote]So Janet decided midway through a tour that she was gonna get impregnated knowing that if it "took" she'd screw fans out of the show they paid tickets for?

It's postponed. Major media outlets are reporting that it's resuming later his year as the State of the World Tour. Her fans have known that she's wanted a kid for years now. She figured she'd finally found the right man to have one with.

R244/R245 are absolutely correct. Yes, the conspiracy theories around Janet's pregnancy/baby do get a little ridiculous, but that's just because the Jacksons time and time again have shown themselves to be some shady fuckers capable of all kinds of crazy. And while Janet for the longest time seemed the most "normal," the reality is she's also pulled some stunts. Her family hushed up her first marriage (and maybe pregnancy). Her second marriage was a secret, bizarre since she and Rene Elizondo were publicly together the whole time. She was Michael's biggest defender and insisted they were still close but then had to admit she had not yet met her niece or maybe nephew. Then there was some weird shit going down with Paris and Katherine after Michael's death. Then Jermaine Dupri maybe mismanages some of her money and the family is trying to milk her bank accounts after Michael's death, and she conveniently meets and marries a billionaire. Then the most recent stunt with canceling her tour, as if a 50 year old women gets pregnant suddenly for the "first" time and without months of planning/medical intervention. As if a couple who have been together 6 years and in their 4th year of marriage suddenly decide, time to have a baby RIGHT NOW. And then AFTER the miracle baby arrives, she decides he's too controlling and has to go, just as they maybe reach the big milestone in their prenup. And now the notoriously private, secretive Janet is suddenly getting papped and sharing baby pics.

Something shady is up. Whether Janet is the mother, grandmother, adoptive mother or fake mother we'll never know by trusting anything that comes out of a Jackson's mouth. And no, it has nothing to do with how light the baby's skin is. Babies are short on melanin and have very thin skin--it's why they burn so easily in the sun. And babies of every ethnic background can start out much lighter than they will eventually be, although it's obviously more noticeable in darker-skinned families.

Those publicity reports about Janet resuming her tour are nothing but trial balloons to see not only if there is any interest in ticket sales but to also seek out funding for the tour.

No one is interested in going and no one is interested in losing more money funding another cursed Janet Jackson tour.

There was a huge uproar among ticketholders when they were first told the tour was being "postponed" and they had to hang onto their tickets. Live Nation had to do an about-face just a couple days later and allow refunds. Even her fans know she can't be trusted.

[quote]Even her fans know she can't be trusted.

Lies!!!!

I found our resident DL Janet fan.

Not only light skin but the baby doesn't look like either parents.

[quote]No one is interested in going

Really?

R261 "I'm not going to sit in the nosebleeds and listen to Janet whisper."

OMG does that woman post here?!

The next question is who gets custody of the baby with the impending divorce. I've seen lots of stories of women married to middle eastern men who then try to divorce them and the men abscond with the child to whatever country they're from and to raise them as a proper Muslim. I can imagine with his money, the danger of that happening is even greater.

That is exactly how I pictured Janbot @R262(whether that is actually she or not.)

Lenny Kravitz as a baby with Mom, Roxie Roker.

What's the lenny pic supposed to prove? He very much looks like a black baby. Whether light or not, still looks black. Janet' s baby is WHITE, WHITE, WHITE!!!!

Who really cares if Janet's baby is white. Its only mildly interesting that she is such a craven liar she couldn't eve be bothered to arrange for a black one. Him too. Didn't he want a handsome or pretty arab child? Whatever.

The bizarre and destructive obsession with skin color extends well beyond US borders. It's very possible part of the deal with her husband is she give him a light-skinned boy.

[quote]That is exactly how I pictured Janbot @[R262](whether that is actually she or not.)

Other than the fact that you're too stupid to live, you have no clue what I look like. I've described myself many times.

Janet's baby was born in London, and the baby's parents were "settled" in the UK - hence the baby is a British citizen. Janet can register the baby with the US Embassy in London, and get American citizenship for her baby. the British courts would not allow Wissam to abscond with the baby to the Middle East. If he did that, he could be subject to legal interference that would impede his ability to travel to the UK. He seems to enjoy spending time at his posh mansion in London, and I doubt he would jeopardize his legal status in the UK.

The only thing Lenny has to do with it is that he's an example of a biracial baby. The second pic of him I threw in because I thought it was cute.

Sorry about the Halle Berry pic. It was just another example of a mixed child. But egads! she looks scary as hell. Supposedly it's really her. I should have labeled it with a trigger warning.

Wait, is that really a pic of Halle Berry as a child? I thought it was a bad joke.

No, it's not a joke R277. I'm just as shocked. I like Halle,. At least she grew out of it.

Janet Jackson did not bleach. She is still a brown skinned woman. Her tone changes with make up and like many brown and black people, they also get paler during winter and darker during summer. Again, the shit you people don't know about black people. Look at Kerry Washington. Her skin color changes with the seasons.

r224, I have no reason to lie. Fuck off bitch.

R280, she's not even light skinned. She probably did bleach in the 80's, but she looks pretty damn close to her original color to me.

R219 do you actually KNOW any Arabs personally? Because I do, and all the articles you pull up won't change the truth. Arabs are mixed race people, therefore are not white in the sense that Americans and Europeans view it. You can call a rose a cat until you pass out, but it will still be a rose.

If you look this picture of Yasser Arafat, and see a white man, you need your head examined.

R216 Janet may not be Grace Jones dark, but Janet isn't light skinned, that's for sure. You don't have to be as dark as Grace Jones to be considered dark. You don't say Hallie Berry isn't light because she's not as light Madison Pettis do you? No.

C'mon. We saw Janet when she played Penny, before her skin bleaching, makeup and special photography lights. The girl is as black as tar.

Here's Janet applying her "Chaniqua-Lite" skin bleaching cream.

Why y'all making a fuss about me being black when I'm all pink on the inside?

ESCAPADE Y'ALL!

[quote]Oh, and that ain't no 5 month old baby. It's 3.

No, he was supposed to be born -- months -- before his birth announcement.

That's a fact!

That child does not look like a 3 month old child. In fact, that baby is holding up his head, while he is upright. That doesn't happen until the baby is four months. On top of that, his neck muscles and head control should be strong and steady by -- 6 months. From this pic, his head and head are steady.

R287 Janet seems very proud of her right boob and doesn't care who see's it

Janet in concert looks like the same Janet from Good Times with the exception of the nose job.

Janet has had way more that a nose job. She's had multiple nose jobs and some kind of brow/eye lift. She's also filling those cheeks. At the very least.

This is reminding me of mark zuckerberg and jesse eisenberg's "kids",They look chinese when the father's are white and jewish.Celebs are fucking weird!!

Also not forgetting beyonce's fake bump and amal clooney's non existent weight gain!

R284 Maybe not Yasser Arafat but Lebanese Amal Clooney looks white to me. As is Ralph Nader or these kids. Most Arabs a are Caucasian.

Janet' s baby is white with pink undertones. That doesn't make ANY sense. If he were very light but had at least yellow, or olive undertones, then maybe, but......no.

R298: Exactly. That is how you can tell. Look at Mariah Carey, Jennifer Beals, Jones' daughters, Jeter, Wentworth... They are all biracial with light skin and yellow undertones. Pink undertones = white baby (not biracial).

Some of the white people in this thread are beyond retarded. How is this baby being lighter than both parents any different than two-dark haired white people producing a blond child?

298/299. How do you two even function? You do realize there is not one size fits all for biracial people or any race for that matter. You have white people with pink, yellow, olive undertones black people with brown, yellow, red undertones so why do you think that all biracial babies will have yellow undertones.

R300: There are also delusional black people on this thread who will claim anyone and believe a lily white kid is black or biracial...

You're a grade A moron r302. Biracial siblings with same parents can have wildly different skin tones but somehow all biracial babies have the same skin tone no matter what. You people are idiots.

r303, read a history book you idiot. Look into things like "racial passing" in the United States where half black/half white people where white enough to be accepted in white society. Look up people like Walter White a biracial man who had blond hair/blue eyes and fair skin who could have easily passed as white but was major in the Civil rights movement.

Janet's skin has been different tones through MAKE UP. During the RN era she was light because of makeup and black hair/clothes

But during the janet. era she was her natural brown tone because she stopped wearing pancake makeup

Whoops, here's the janet. era pic...

Due to racial passing it is estimated nearly 1/3 of white Americans have recent African ancestry that they are unaware of. This thread just reveals that some white people are extremely uncomfortable with the fact that some half-black/one-fourth black people can pop out lily white. Probably fucks with their sense of "racial purity."

I'm not trying to start anything and no offense to white people at all, but let's be real white people are awful at detecting biracial and light skinned black people, especially if they have light skin and hair that is not kinky.

Black people can always tell when someone has even a skosh of black heritage. Way before I was born, my great aunt passed for white for years in the late 50 and 60s in New York City. She told everyone that she was Cuban. She married a white man and had white children and didn't even tell him the truth until her Mother died. I remember looking at pictures of her and thinking who in the hell was she fooling, and I remember my Mother saying, "they can't tell, they think they can, but they can't."

I remember when I first went to college - NYU. People assumed that I was Latin. In the small southern town that I was from, there was never any doubt that I was black. I had light skin and wavy hair, but people knew I was black.

I don't think that black people are any greater race detectives than white people R310 since they're the first to constantly ask someone what are you when they come across a mutli or biracial person. As for that baby, you can't come to any conclusion about race until the baby is older so I'll give you that. Skin does darken over time and hair especially changes texture.

Here's for instance, Garcelle Beauvais babies pictures with one of them looking fairly white.

Now here's a picture from last year of Gacelle Beauvais with a picture of those kids, now more grow up. The kids are noticeably darker with curlier hair.

A little black baby humor..

A little white baby humor

"How is this baby being lighter than both parents any different than two-dark haired white people producing a blond child? "

Bitch, please! Whenever two dark-haired people produce a blonde baby, people have exactly this kind of discussion behind the parents back. To the parents face they say "Oh, wasn't your grandmother blonde?".

R315 has never met a black family, ever.

r315, must have been asleep in grade school science classes or went to DeVos voucher school. If two-dark haired people each carry a recessive gene for blond hair, they have a 25 % chance producing a child that will have a 50/50 shot at being blonde or dark haired. Get off datalounge and in someone's school.

R311 and R312, the difference between Garcelle's babies and Janet's baby, is that the father of Garcelle's babies is a typical WASP, while Janet's closet case husband is Arab.

If you think THIS is an off balance discussion of genetics and skin tone vis a vis African Americans, You should take a gander at a thread from yesterday at Lipstick Alley concerning Michael Jackson (did he bleach or not?) I accidentally found it after clicking on a link to something else in our Motown Gossip thread. Let me tell ya, the delusion is real over there.

In 7 pages of comments, only ONE person believes that MJ was trying to look lighter than his natural shade. They completely buy the "it's all caused by vitiligo" argument; and the one person who called it like it really is was banned.

So this comes as no surprise to me that many believe that the baby is Janet's and is biracial.

[quote]So this comes as no surprise to me that many believe that the baby is Janet's and is biracial.

It isn't that people shouldn't believe her baby isn't biracial. To say the baby isn't biracial is nonsense.

What isn't believable is that the baby is Janet's or that she actually gave birth to it. That's the part that is ridiculous and delusional.

R319, you have brought up Lipstick Alley any chance you get.

r319. Below is a little girl that suffers from Vitiligo. Nevermind the fact, that during Michael Jackson's wrongful death trial that the doctor who performed the autopsy confirmed that he had Vitilgo. Jackson had "vitiligo, a skin pigmentation disease," Rogers said. "So, some areas of the skin appear light and others appear dark." It's amazing how all you oblivious white people are scholars in black skin and know more than actual black people and by amazing I mean ridiculous. You don't see black people acting like we are the authority on sunburns on white skin or something like that.

It is not only white people that does not believe that dumbass excuse about mj having vitiligo. He used vitiligo that he probably never had as an excuse to bleach his skin. There are black people like myself who roll their eyes at the fuckery that some blacks will believe about the jacksons.

One of the parents would need to be WHITE, as in the case of garcelle' s babies. That's not the story we're being presented with here, so it's hard to believe. Plus, she didn't carry that baby at 50, hahaha.

R319 So fucking what? Am I only permitted one mention per day?

Guess what? There are quite a few threads here at the DL which link to LSA.

I cant believe you all are still going on about this.

r323, Michael Jackson's autopsy confirmed he had vitiligo. OF COURSE he used cosmetic procedures to lighten the rest of his body. Entertainers have cosmetic procedures to make themselves more palatable and appealing to the masses. DUH. Michael's addiction to meds and cosmetic procedures started when his head was burned in the 80s Pepsi commercial.

Latoya probably looked just like Janet's baby when she was 5 months old, umpteen years ago, and she is the child of two black people. So why do you all need to argue over what Janet's multiracial child looks like?

I think you bitches should get fucked so you can stop being bitter. Im sure you wouldn't want anyone talking shit about your baby either.

R326, the real issue isn't the baby and his skin tone. It's about some odd hatred that a few vocal posters on here have about Janet Jackson and their strange fascination/ back & forth with the poster known as Janbot. They've been doing this dance for years now and it will never let it up. This baby's coloring is just another battle in this endless war.

r323/r326, if you dumbasses actually knew anything about Vitiligo in severe cases where it covers a majority of the body, depigmentation treatment is common to unify skin color. r323 any black person would know that which why I doubt you're actually black. Nevermind the fact that again the doctor who performed the autopsy confirmed MJ had vitiligo in during the wrongful death trial. So ask your simple mind why would he risk his career/license/freedom by falsifying an autopsy as well as lying about it in a trial. You people really are dumb.

Hey, R319, did the gals at Lipstick Alley alsy say that Jackson's nose just naturally fell off?

R329 Ha! No, the truth is even funnier: one poster posited that the topical meds used to treat his vitiligo caused an erosion of the nasal tissue necessitating plastic surgery in order to restore the nose.

And ladies of LSA: we KNOW that he had vitiligo. We KNOW that it was confirmed in the autopsy.

What I do not believe is that his only option for dealing with it was going from a rich shade of brown to an eerie shade of ghost. I knew a black chick who had vitiligo and she *****GASP**** actually darkened the area where the pigment had disappeared in order to disguise her condition. She did not bleach out her unaffected areas.

R331, you're just obsessed. It's weird.

R297 do you comprehend what mixed race means?

r331, treatment of Vitiligo depends on severity of the affected areas, you brain trust. For some people, topical medication treatment is suffice. Some people may choose light therapy and some opt for surgery. In the case of the black lady you know, it sounds like her Vitiligo affected areas were less prevalent than her unaffected areas so skin dye was suffice. The thing with that is that coverage only last as a few days. Therefore, they must be reapplied frequently and also applied to the spots just right to make them look natural. Also the dye on dark skin will make the white spots less noticeable but not necessarily match a natural tone.

Well, this is not at all the nice little baby shower that I had anticipated!

One thing that is for sure, He is a child and I welcome him into this world!

R334 Oh dear.

The word is sufficient, brain trust.

R317

You just have been a genetics major at Trump University. You act like you are an authority, but are completely incorrect. If hair color follows Mendelian genetics and dark is dominant/light is recessive AND two dark haired parents are carries for the recessive light hair gene, then there is a 25% chance the baby will have light hair and a 75% chance the baby will have dark hair. Of the 75% with dark hair, there is a 66.7% chance the kid will carry a light hair gene (but still have dark hair) and a 33.3% chance the kid will not carry a light hair gene at all.

The issue is... the chance of a black person carrying a light hair gene is VERY small. If Janet does not carry a light hair gene, and her baby daddy carries one, there is NO CHANCE the baby will have light hair- but 50% will carry a gene for it and can pass it on the their offspring.

Oh look, it switched browsers to "defend" itself, ha.

Yeah right mj had vitiligo, that negro did not want to be black. I guess vitiligo caused him to damage his nose. Damn it really made him start wearing wigs, turn into a white trans person, develop baby voice, get a Peter pan nose and probably molest children. Vitiligo is a bitch. Rest in peace to his weird self hating self.

Oh lord the "browser switch" troll returns.

Why so bothered about being called out, R341?

^^WTF are you going on about?

Don't rain on his parade. He thinks nobody else realizes it.

Isn't it possible that he is on a different phone or computer than he was when he made the first comment?

[You just have been a genetics major at Trump University. You act like you are an authority, but are completely incorrect. If hair color follows Mendelian genetics and dark is dominant/light is recessive AND two dark haired parents are carries for the recessive light hair gene, then there is a 25% chance the baby will have light hair and a 75% chance the baby will have dark hair.]

You clearly haven't been in school in a century. Like I said if two dark haired parents carry a recessive gene for blonde hair they have a 25% chance of producing a child that has 50/50 shot at being blond. They could have 4 children that all turn out brunettes (most likely) or 4 children that all turn out blonde or 3 turn out blond 1 brunette so on and so forth. Math is not your strong suit. Regardless, anyway you look at it it genetically and mathematically it is possible for two dark haired people to produce a blond child.

Yeah because people typically agree with their own posts when replying from a different device.

Alleles: B: dominant, dark hair gene b: recessive light hair gene

Possible genotypes with corresponding phenotypes: BB: dark hair Bb: dark hair (100% of the time) but carries a light hair gene, so they can pass this gene on to their children. bb: light hair

If the parents are Bb x Bb, they will have BB, Bb, and bb offspring in a 1:2:1 ratio. The bb offspring will be blond. The BB and Bb children will al have dark hair.

What do you mean "a 25% chance of producing a child with a 50/50 shot of being blond"

You're a moron.

I was told when I joined DataLounge that there would be no arithmetic questions.

Janbot, what do you think about Gil coming out and saying Janet doesn't want the 500 million divorce settlement? I think he needs to keep his mouth shut. If anything he should be hoping Janet gets that money so she can continue to pay his ass cause nobody else is going to hire him. His tired moves are part of why Janet fell off.

Maybe they were going to get divorced anyway and when Janet realized she had bad ticket sales, she dreamed this whole thing up.

She might have had some old frozen eggs lying around a fertility clinic and hired a blonde sperm donor and a surrogate and THAT'S why the baby is so light.

If her husband doesn't fight for custody, it's not his,imo.

Gil always talks too much and she needs to drop him like a bad habit, but Janet is wealthy on her own and does not need to dream up a scheme to get millions from Wissam.

So much chatter about inconsequential things in this thread.

It's not her baby. END.OF.STORY.

R353 I don't think she did it for money, I think it had to do with getting out of the tour. For all we know she could have rented the baby for the photo shoot. Nothing would surprise me because all the Jackson's are known liars.

Not only are they all liars, they are also child abusers/covering up child abuse, drug addicts and substance abusers and either committing paedophilia or covering paedophilia up R355. You forgot to mention that too.

Hollywood is weird,I think we can all agree on that.

Janet may be independently wealthy, but she doesn't have billions. There is no way in hell kinky, titty-flashing Janet "Throb" Jackson, who converted to Islam, covered herself up head to toe and cut short a tour under the guise of having a baby, all for her man, is walking away from this marriage without a big time payday.

[quote]It's not her baby. END.OF.STORY.

Unless you are her obstetrician or Wissam himself, you don't know a motherfucking thing. END. OF. STORY.

[quote]Janet may be independently wealthy, but she doesn't have billions.

Are you in her bank account? She has hundreds of millions, so there's that.

[quote]There is no way in hell kinky, titty-flashing Janet "Throb" Jackson, who converted to Islam, covered herself up head to toe

Janet Jackson didn't even show skin until 1990, which is way after she'd become a superstar. Point being, she didn't need to sell sex and show skin to make it, and covering up is not abnormal for her. And the half-second tit flash is so 2004.

[quote]and cut short a tour under the guise of having a baby

It was no guise. She gained a ton of weight and had a baby.

[quote]is walking away from this marriage without a big time payday.

You're the type who believes everything you read. I could probably give you a shitload of wooden nickels and you would attempt to spend them.

"She has hundreds of millions, so there's that."

Are YOU in her bank account?

Honestly, I don't understand Janbot's obsession with this freaky chick.

I like Janet. A lot of her music was part of the mixtape of my teens, but so what?

The truth is that Janet does come from a very weird family. And that's the nice thing that can be said about the Jacksons. That household was rife with dysfunction and child abuse. Imagine the shit we don't know about, that never got out to the press

I do not believe that baby is genetically related to Janet. That does not mean she will not be a good parent. I think she will, and I hope that she finally has the opportunity to be happy.

Surprise! Surprise! .. Not!

Janet Jackson ‘to reschedule her 75 axed tour dates as she plans new album about motherhood’

See, it had everything to do with getting out of the TOUR!

"It's not her baby. END.OF.STORY. "

It is SO her baby... regardless of where the baby's DNA came from!

As with her brother's children, she is the legal parent even if the kids were adopted, birthed by a surrogate, or assembled by a team of sperm and egg donors and the surrogate. MJ's white children are considered his legal offspring in the eyes of the law, and if Janet and her gay husband have done everything right with the birth certificate, this baby is theirs and nobody can challenge their rights as parents. END OF STORY.

Janet Jackson knows as much about motherhood as Joan Crawford.

Meet Janet's other child..207lbs 6oz bouncing baby girl, Tiffany

“I’ve been kept a secret a very long time. I want people to know the truth. She has been denying me for many years. I waited 31 years. “I want people to know the truth. Now it’s time for me to tell my truth.”

I look more like Janet Jackson than that beast at R366.

Is that the girl she gave to Rebe to raise?

For reals - I heard Janet was on a short list of people to be invited to perform at the White House as the Obama's wound down their time in DC and Michelle, Sasha and Beyonce laughed about it, saying "Janet is older than Tina Knowles!"

I guess the Janet Jackson troll has never heard of light skinned blacks, redbones, yellowbones, etc.?

What a bunch of racist idiots posting here. First, Janet Jackson was pregnant and carried the child to term. She used IVF to get pregnant, which many women in their 40's and 50's use to conceive a child. The IVF procedure has been around for about 40 years old. And, whether she used her own frozen eggs or donor eggs is irrelevant, the child is legally her child, just like when someone adopts a child, it is legally their child. Second, bi-racial people come in all different skin tones. It is totally possible for a non-black person and a white person to have a child who is very light-skinned, or even appears to be 100% white. Wentworth Miller has a black father and a white mother. He has electric blue eyes and skin several shades lighter than former President Obama (check out his picture in case you dumb bitches forgot what he looks like), so no, not all bi-racial people look as dark as a Obama or darker. Finally, the bigger issue is not the skin tone of Janet Jackson's baby, but why there are so many racist and stupid queens who are allowed to post on this site--what a venomous cesspool!

I have a question for anyone except R373, who is a complete lunatic.

I made a statement once to a black friend that I thought biracial children were the prettiest of all kids. She seemed to be somewhat offended at first, but I explained to her that I was saying they are better looking than all white or all black kids.

That doesn't seem "racist" to me. What do you think?

Any recent photos of Janet's bundle of joy?

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