Drake has to reschedule tour at last minute because of poor ticket sales

He's dominating the music charts and setting streaming records with his new album, but somehow can't manage to sell concert tickets. Meanwhile, Beyonce, Taylor, Pink and Timberlake are packing arenas and stadiums. Y'all laugh at Madonna, but I bet she has no problem filling arenas at her next tour.

The hip-hop domination of music is an illusion, all built upon huge streaming numbers. These artists have poor pure sales of their albums and struggle to sell concert tickets. The industry has to do something to stop this nonsense.

I can't name a single song by this guy, and I'm still in my 20's and not living under a rock. But I am from Europe - I'm guessing he's a lot more popular in the US.

TBH, rap artists are pretty boring to see live. I'm sure marginally talented Drake isn't as exciting live either.

Until a neutral 3rd party starts certifying these streaming numbers, I assume these companies are just making them up. Especially after the Tidal expose.

I saw this image posted on Twitter for one of his tour dates...brutal.

I mean he’s not a great performer, relies heavily on autotune and the ticket prices are probably astronomical.

Drake is boring AF. EVERYTHING he does sounds the same. I stopped listening to his crap. I used to like his crap, but how much more of the same song can one listen to, over and over again?

He’s dismal.

I haven't heard many of his songs, but I've noticed that more than one have subtly mysogynistic lyrics, including "Hold on, we're going home", which I otherwise really like.

"Meanwhile, Beyonce, Taylor, Pink and Timberlake are packing arenas and stadiums."

Wait a minute. There's an entire thread here devoted with hundreds of posts claiming Timberlake is so ovah!!

Could it be DL trend setters don't know shit and are simply pulling shit out of their prolapsed, gaping assholes? I think so.

As far as hip-hop acts go, he's pretty bad. That whole mopey robot schtick is super tiresome. Here, in Toronto, people get so butthurt if you say something bad about Drake; the self worth of this world class provincial bacwater is tied to his success.

{R8} Beyonce, Taylor and Timberlake they are not selling out arenas either

Taylor Swift’s team says this is all part of a plan to maximize ticket prices and minimize scalping. But is that strategy working out? Team Taylor is already claiming record-setting sales ahead of its ‘reputation’ tour. But a quick look at Swift’s upcoming shows on ticketmaster.com reveals a potentially serious issue.

Justin Timberlake's Toronto Show Tickets Dropped To Half The Price ... Justin Timberlake has been no stranger to controversy and depleting album sales this past ... that his tour management team is trying to change that for the second night.

Beyonce and Jay-Z, as it appears that the On The Run II Tour is seeing some serious sales woes.

Well, yeah...the man is not that talented.

I came to post what r10 did, much better than I could. All acts who are frequent Daily Mail headlines suffer from poor ticket sales.

I'm glad he cut his beard. It was starting to take over his face ... I like Drake but his songs all sound alike.

The reason why he isn't selling tickets is because Drake is ALWAYS on some damn tour. He needs to take a touring break. All of his fans have seen him at least twice. Its enough already.

[quote] Y'all laugh at Madonna, but I bet she has no problem filling arenas at her next tour.

Not me, OP! I for one have never doubted her continued appeal for our elderly brethren for whom time has stopped.

I think they are all going to be fucked in the ass from poor concert revenues. They are all mediocre. The streaming numbers are probably not so off. People are lazy and poor so they stream all this crap. They aint shelling out to buy shit.

Meanwhile I haven’t been to a country concert in the past 5 years that wasn’t sold out. Jason Aldean, Eric Church and other’s headline tours playing arenas in about 100 cities. Jimmy Buffett sells out every show he plays. I’m pretty sure Brad Pasley does too.

Out of all the shows I’ve seen, Eric Church is probably the most talented performer who also has an amazing road band. He probably outsells Drake with song downloads.

Since when is Jimmy Buffet considered country?

Eric Church and Joanna Cotton from about 5 years ago when they played small halls.

R19 - Buffett is usually classified as Gulf and Western which is a play on Country and Western. It’s more beach music and the genre covers Kenny Chesney and more recently the Zac Brown Band. Country radio doesn’t want him nor does rock radio. He’s been ignored by the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. He just might see a nomination this year. But he has his own station on Sirius, sells out every concert, and live streams his shows for free on the Internet. And makes more money each year than Drake will see.

Country artists make a mint from touring. They make very little from album sales, and streaming is non-existent in the country world, but their fans love to go to concerts, drink beer and whoop it up. The ticket prices are kept low, so it doesn't cost much more than going out to eat. Since artists today make the bulk of their money from touring, the big country acts are bringing in more money than most other genres.

But he just broke the Beatles record!!!

How come Madonna didn't get in trouble after sucking face with Drake at Coachella?

"The hip-hop domination of music is an illusion, all built upon huge streaming numbers. These artists have poor pure sales of their albums and struggle to sell concert tickets. The industry has to do something to stop this nonsense."

Stop what? There have always been acts who did well with album sales but not ticket sales. Look at Christina Aguilera, Gwen Stefani, Janet Jackson....their concerts aren't selling. It looks like you are just making up reasons to bash hip hop.

And Madonna does it playing mostly new material. Imagine if she did a proper GH tour. It would be massive as all her tours are. And if the idiot up thread thinks she can fill these places with just eldergays, think again. Her main demo has always been straight women.

Drake is all illusion. The kids listen to him but don't know why they like him. They listen because, well, he's Drake and everyone listens to him. He sucks. No one wants to see him live.

Beyonce will do well on her own but no one wants to see her and Jay-ZZZZZZZZ.

Timberlake is having big career trouble.

Taylor is finally having a slump. She is the only one who can come close to Madonna level tours but again, none of Madonna's tours have been a GH tour. Taylor will bounce back sadly. Middle America loves her.

Charts and streaming numbers are 100% bought and are lies. He’s not selling tickets because no one actually listens to him.

Oh, please, you know nothing about the industry if you think his sales are "lies" because his concert isn't selling. Concerts are so expensive these days, even a lot of genuinely huge acts have trouble selling tickets because people would rather just stay home and download a single

R26 I tend to agree. There is massive cheating and payola again. The charts are a joke. Counting streams as sales is ridiculous. I can't believe the shit that charts. And I'm 33. Music is abysmal now and has been for awhile.

I agree the only people who can still tour and sell out large arenas or stadiums are Taylor (she needs to ditch the stadiums), Madonna, Beyonce, Pink, Adele. A few others but not many.

If you "tend to agree" with r26 then you are obviously as clueless as he is about the industry

Streams are counted because unlike radio play both the performer and songwriter gets paid. For AM and FM radio play, only the songwriter gets paid. Streaming gets complicated because the rules differ depending on if the listener or the service picks the song streaming. It’s a bizarre structure. Digital sales follow many of the rules of CD and LP sales.

I wonder how much performers and songwriters get paid for public performance collected through BMI and ASCAP. Every store must pay for public performance to both groups. Think of the number of times you’ve heard Howie Day singing Collide as you walk through the supermarket. The supermarket subscribes to both services and then the supermarket can use services that play music controlled by those organizations.

Drake?

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Streaming means you listen to a song. Wow. As Tidal showed with Beyonce and Kanye, it is easy to lie about. It is easily manipulated. The music industry is in bad shape. So many aren't going to be remembered.

Really people are still paying to see Timberlake? I can understand the others selling out though. Pink is less popular now but still has very devoted fans.

Spotify pushes Drake so hard, he was on every single playlist, even gospel when his album came out. Playlists are everything to an artist if you want to get high stream counts. Labels push who they want, whether or not the listener really has an interest in the artist.

I thought his excuse for delaying/ canceling dates was because he's touring with Migos and Offset is now in jail.

R33 Not really. Pink is very good but even she is not on the level as stars of the past. The days of the truly organic stars are over.

Didn't JT's Mountain Man album sell like 10 copies?? I like Drake's music but I wouldn't pay to see him in concert.

Who are Drake's opening acts? Does that make a difference?

JT didn't do terrible in comparison to other artists these days, but not great for someone who had the Superbowl and all the promo and fans he once had. He didn't flop, more like a fizzle, he had to drop ticket prices and did not sell out.

[Bold] PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF PLAYING RIDIC TICKETS PRICES!!! THAT'S WHY!!!!

r34 when I scan twitter when artists drop songs, I do see the flood of tweets. I *am* a techno-challenged junior e-gay, but I can usually tell when accounts and comments are suspicious; there is a genuine flood when a big artist releases material.

Having said that, anything digital is much more easily doctored, payola isn't even necessary.

Fake fake fake. Back in the day, people had to go to a store to buy your record. THAT showed interest. Not just sampling your latest via stream. Geez, music is in bad shape.

And get off my damn lawn! lol r42

Actually, back in the day when radio broke artists, there was an unofficial fee schedule (seriously) for different categories, i.e. Top Twenty, Top Ten, etc. I recently heard a couple of older artists referring to it quite matter-of-factly during interviews.

I think in a way that was worse because there was no possibility of an artist just blowing up outside the system. It was extremely rare, and took a very long time, e.g. Metallica. Someone today like Post Malone can get a record deal off of a digital service. And yes, I realize he's a shocking no talent compared to back in the day, but IMHO the point holds.

[quote] Someone today like Post Malone can get a record deal off of a digital service.

There's your anti-streaming argument right there. It has democratized music industry but also opened up the floodgates to tons of the lowest common denominator garbage that would've been laughed out of the room in the past. Same thing as with self publishing.

In terms of dropping tour sales in general for artists, I think it's a consequence of the high prices during a time when people are feeling the pinch. The prices are high because it's the only way artists can get big pay outs these days, as they don't get much from actual music sales.

As for Drake, I can't imagine anyone wanting to see him live. All his songs sound the same, with his dull flat monotone voice, I literally cannot understand how he is even successful. I can only assume Illuminati.

yada yada yada, young people suck, and not in a good way

Have you ever seen Drake dance? That might help explain it. His dance moves are right up there with Whitney Houston's.

Using streaming numbers to rank on Billboard charts doesn’t translate into popularity are a live artist apparently

love it

let the recession begin, its coming, look aaround us. thanks deplorables for electing that asswipe...NOT

Were he to present hole, he'd sell out within minutes

A lot of younger people are not interested in in live music and shows. It's expensive and it's a time commitment and it involves mingling with other people, something many young folks don't like to do.

Ticket prices are insane. The Obama administration greenlit ticket broker mergers that drove the fees through the roof.

White middle aged middle class hipster listen to Drake, that's why he makes bland MOR rap.

Drake is doing a three night run in Brooklyn at Barlcays thurs-sat leading into Labor Day. The first two nights are pretty much sold out. Most of the good or decent seats look like they'd be $250 per. A lot.

The biggest tour of 2017 was U2 who made over 300 million. I agree that younger people aren't interested in going to concerts. Or have the money. I like Drake's music but I bet he's pretty boring live.

I’ll just leave this here...

On one hand some younger concert-age people and some, uh, persons of color aren't going to have hundreds to drop on a concert. On the other, I bet there's a segment of casual suburban listeners who might be hesitant to go to a hiphop concert. Even though most stadiums would have diligent safety procedures, screenings, etc.

Would I want to be in the same room as Migos? With all the homophobia chatter around them?

Swift has sold out every North American show she's had so far and both of the Dublin dates, R25.

R49 proves Trump Derangement Syndrome is very real. Must be miserable to be so “woke.” Drake can’t sell out stadiums because Trump! Is it Trump’s fault when you stub your toe? Burn your bagel? Lose your bookmark? Is it Trump’s fault when your analyst cancels on you at the last minute because they don’t want to catch your toxic pessimism?

Honestly, I can’t imagine 1) being so deluded due to a malignant and demonstrably retarded ideology and 2) the difficulty in overcoming that retardation because a terrible media ecosystem happily indulges and reinforces my paranoid delusions for profit!

Anyway, I recently had tickets for The Pixies and sold them at the last minute because I didn’t want to deal with the hassle of a stadium and parking and all the other bullshit, like waiting in line for drinks, annoying seat neighbors, the endless waiting. Fuck it. The best shows are the low priced, low investment shows at small venues with possibly the next big thing.

He will NEVER EVER make an album as good as Take Care, he should understand that by now

The streaming record isn't even that impressive considering his last albums had 20 and 25 songs on them, respectively. Fucking duh the numbers will be bigger.

The problem is there are no good songs now. They're trying to make money on nothing.

R55 illustrates perfectly the current state of popular music.

r59? You are super weird. And angry.

"So many aren't going to be remembered."

People said the same thing about Madonna 30 years ago.....no one knows who will be remembered and who won't be.

r59 does sound really deranged. But that's Republicanism for you.

Drake's number one goal was to be rich and feature in the Forbes richest rappers list. His music is a product sold a mass mainstream basic market. Yes he is an artist, but musicians have talent artists have bluff.

[quote] And if the idiot up thread thinks she can fill these places with just eldergays, think again. Her main demo has always been straight women.

Sorry--I forgot to mention the elderfrauen!

That's it! I've had it with these mediocre, talentless "artists". From now on I'm gonna learn how to sing and play a musical instrument so I can make music that I like!

Also, I'm gonna learn dance and choreography so I can put on my own private shows for myself.

R65, the difference is, Madonna's hits continued to sell and were played long after her peak was over. All the time. The Immaculate originally went 6x platinum and is now 12x platinum. It continues to sell strongly, like Thriller. Can you really imagine Drake, Beyonce, or Taylor selling that strongly 10-20 years after their peaks end? I really doubt it.

r44 are we pretending bands like The Association and Paul Revere and Raiders didn't exist now? (Although the Wrecking Crew kept the LP standards up at least for a lot of these acts, they had a lot of dross.)

People have selective memories. A lot of the junior e-gay contingent like me bought greatest hits packages, too. We don't even know some of the crappier deep cuts of better groups.

Now you're thinking r68. that's the idea.

What musical instrument will you learn?

Boring. Who wants to see this crap live? He doesn’t sing or dance or rap.

He just repeats auto tuned phrases.

Who needs it?

R73, it's gotta be electric guitar because I wanna be able to strut around the stage (my living room) while performing an elaborate dance routine.

[quote]Drake is all illusion. The kids listen to him but don't know why they like him.

It's because he's safe to listen to. Guys today will not listen to female artists in public. If you do, you're labeled as gay. So, they listen to universally approved male artists like Drake and Ed Sheehan. That's how fragile male sexuality is in 2018.

This is also why it's so hard for female artists to chart high on the Hot 100. Male artists attract male and female listeners, while female artists are limited to females and gay males.

R76 Yep. Young males today are hyper into male artists. And like you say, only the approved ones. They are sheep. I've never seen anything like it except during the Nirvana craze but no one was ostracized if they didn't like them. The younger generation does not have a varied musical taste. They are super trend followers as well. All my nieces male friends like hip/hop and rap. All of them. And nothing else. Young females are the same in that they like a very few, super trendy acts.

Poor Drake was called out for being a deadbeat dad whose father was a deadbeat dad. Called out for having staff that write his lyrics, he said it's ok because he wrote lyrics for Kanye.

He's gets a lot of play on drive-time radio (loops of the top ten hits overplayed throughout the day), but fails at any of the throwback stations. His material just doesn't hold up that well.

He is designed and created for vagina owners. There's nothing wrong with that.

You can say the word female r78. Women if you like. It’s not illegal (yet).

where are the drake big penis pics?

Madonna bundles concert tickets with her CD. If you want one, you get the other. A lot of tickets are also given to radio stations for last minute giveaways. Thus, the sold out tour dates.

The perks of being managed by the biggest concert promoters in the business.

R82 You're fucking stupid. No one is going to buy a $150 concert ticket to get a CD. None of her tickets are cheap, dear. You want to see if tickets are given away, you look at attendance and gross. Compare to the ticket avg and it is clear Madonna, at least, sells tix legit. No need to "give away" anything.

r76 or maybe they actually don't like them and think they suck. They're made and marketed for female consumers.

"That's how fragile male sexuality is in 2018."

Please, it hasn't been cool for straight guys to listen to male artists any time in the past 40 years, it definitely wasn't cool when I was in high school in the 80s. Guys listened to rock, girls listened to female pop artists like Whitney and Madonna.

"Can you really imagine Drake, Beyonce, or Taylor selling that strongly 10-20 years after their peaks end? I really doubt it."

Well, Beyonce has managed to remain famous over a period of 20 years. And I don't like Taylor Swift, but I thought she was going to fade away by now and she hasn't so.....

R85 In the 80's, everyone listened to everyone. And I'm from the south. We listened to Madonna and Ratt and Quiet Riot and Prince and Michael Jackson and Country and everything in between. It was never based on gender. We also couldn't give a fuck about the artist's age. No one gave a fuck Tina Turner or Billy Joel were "older." Radio played all kinds of music on Top 40 stations where I lived. There were some groups that only listened to one type of music like the Metal heads and Kickkers (Country) but the vast majority listened to it all.

R85, I"m only speaking of Beyonce's solo music. Maybe three of her songs will be remembered well: Crazy in Love, Irreplaceable and Single Ladies.

OMG, R72! How could you not post Bart Baker's parody video? It literally answers R71's question about three minutes in and explains how Drake got signed, LOL...

r86, maybe that's your experience but I never met a single heterosexual man in the 80s who listened to Madonna. Nor did I meet a single person who listened to every single kind of music. Everyone had their likes and dislikes, just like people do now. The people who listened to pop and rock didn't care about country music at all or actively disliked it. Top 40 stations certainly didn't play "everything" - they certainly didn't play country and rarely played rap or metal. Some DLers are backwards-looking and want to pretend everything in the past was perfect while they rant about "kids today"

R89 Bullshit they didn't. In the south, they played everything on our 2 big top 40 stations. And aside from a few groups, everyone listened to everyone. Did they like them in equal measure? No. And the fuck straight guys didn't just listen to Madonna in the 80's where I lived, they fucking loved her and not just her looks. It wasn't until she kissed a black dude and started putting the gay dudes in her vids they abandoned her in droves.

I don't know where you lived and it sounds fucking dreary but where I lived, no one gave a damn who was listening to what, the gender of the singer or their age. I remember when Aretha had Freeway of Love in the mid 80's no one was like "ewww how old is this bitch?" nope we loved it.

R55 👍🏻👍🏻👏👏👏❤️❤️❤️😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣 Talent vs trash

[quote]Top 40 stations certainly didn't play "everything" - they certainly didn't play country and rarely played rap or metal. Some DLers are backwards-looking and want to pretend everything in the past was perfect while they rant about "kids today"

OMG, what nonsense! Every time I read comments like this, I'm convinced there's a troll at DL whose specialty is contradicting people about things he clearly didn't experience.

I'm not R86, but I grew up in the 1980s. In NYC, our two Top 40 stations, WPLJ and Z100, did play everything. And if you look at the #1 Top 40 Billboard Hits from the 1980s, you'll see that the songs were a cross section of multiple genres--soul, pop, rock, metal, reggae, rap and yes, even country. Kenny Rogers and Dolly Parton had #1 hits on Billboard. So did the likes of Guns n Roses, Def Leppard and Poison. So what are you even talking about when you say Top 40 didn't play everything? Of course it did.

[quote] Top 40 stations certainly didn't play "everything" - they certainly didn't play country and rarely played rap or metal.

This is so wrong! The great thing about 80s hit radio is that they played all genres--pop, soft rock, heavy metal, adult-contemporary, jazz and country. They played Journey, Madonna, Whitney, Bobby McFerrin, Billy Squier, Billy Idol, Prince, Billy Ray Cyrus, Streisand, Bon Jovi, Anita Baker, Dionne Warwick. Nothing was off-limits as long as it was a hit. And like someone else said, the age of the artist didn't matter, because they played Tina Turner and Dionne Warwick who were in their fucking 40s. Imagine pop stations doing that today. Oh, how I miss those days.

"Kenny Rogers and Dolly Parton had #1 hits on Billboard."

They were pop/country. And those hits were not the norm. Other than the rare crossover hit, country did not score big on the Billboard hot 100.

"So did the likes of Guns n Roses, Def Leppard and Poison"

Def Leppard? Poison? Honey, that was pop/rock not real metal.

Most top 40 stations RARELY played metal, rap, or country, except for the rare "crossover" hit

I want to buy a ticket just so I can boo him.

Like every other artist, his tickets are probably too friggin expensive. That's the reason they're not selling well.

Anyone who thinks straight men regularly listened to female artists in the past needs to look at chart info from the past, men have historically dominated the singles charts and the album charts precisely because most straight guys wouldn't be caught dead listening to female singers. It's actually the opposite - female acts are doing better than ever, look at Adele or Taylor Swift

Well, I'm a man and I listened to Donna Summer, Barbra Streisand and Olivia Newton-John almost exclusively in high school. I've never been able to relate to male singers. When I listen to female singers, I imagine myself onstage as the singer. You don't get that kind of emotional connection with male singers.

R92 and R94 Exactly. That troll is just being an idiot who obviously lived in a horrid, dreary place growing up and is resentful. Thank you for the receipts.

By the 80's, straight males definitely listened to female singers with no shame. Music was music. Nobody gave a fuck as long as the song was GOOD. Age, gender, genre, didn't matter. When a song hit #1 then, it was a nation wide smash. It was actually Madonna who broke through the straight male demo and that is why her rise was astronomical and will never be repeated.

The man had 30% of all the songs on the Top 100. People already have all his songs.

[quote]Well, I'm a man and I listened to Donna Summer, Barbra Streisand and Olivia Newton-John almost exclusively in high school.

Honey, of course you did. But we're special. We're a protected class.

[quote]They were pop/country. And those hits were not the norm. Other than the rare crossover hit, country did not score big on the Billboard hot 100.

Predictably, the Contrarian Troll has started shifting the goal posts of his own argument and dismissing country music as country music.

[quote]Def Leppard? Poison? Honey, that was pop/rock not real metal.

Like a Contrarian Troll, you'll say anything at this point.

[quote]Most top 40 stations RARELY played metal, rap, or country, except for the rare "crossover" hit

Merely stating the same lie over and over again isn't going to make it true.

[quote]This is so wrong! The great thing about 80s hit radio is that they played all genres

It wasn't just 1980s radio, either, but 1960s, 70s and 90s. Everyone was in the Top 40 then. It was starting around the mid-2000s when you started seeing this shift in Top 40 in which only a small select number of people and genres get played. This issue is why music sucks so much today.

R90 also nailed it about how "old artists" were just as much a part as Top 40 as the young ones and how nobody cared that they were old. In the 1980s, Tina Turner, Elton John, Marvin Gaye and David Bowie were seen as being just as relevant to music as Duran Duran or Wang Chung. Now the older acts are seen as irrelevant and we don't hear from them anymore. It's bizarre. Frank Sinatra was still relevant in the 1970s. I remember as a kid hearing "New York, New York" all the time and going, "Cool, that's Frank Sinatra." It never crossed my mind to go, "Oh, who the hell is this geezer and what's this stupid old song?" Music was music. There was no distinction. If it was good, it was good. Who cared who sang it or how old they were or what sex they were?

Maybe the 90s were different but artists like PJ Harvey, Kristen Hersh, Cat Power, Bjork even Tori Amos had large straight male fans. Even now with the exception of Tori Amos (who seems to have a mostly gay male following now), a lot of straight men attend the concerts by those 90s female musicians.

OP is making up shit. The article does not state that at all.

R105, I would say it was probably in the mid to late 90s when the radio became shit. That's when Clear Channel became a menace.

R88 I didn't know about it.

R108 It was the early 00's. It probably started a bit late 90's but it was noticeable in the early 00's. Thanks to the Telecommunications Act of 1996-the single worst piece of leg Bill Clinton ever signed. Of course, it was a conservative bill but he signed it as a way to keep his economic policies from 93 unchanged.

R105 I agree. I miss those times. I remember recently seeing a picture of the Billboard charts from the early 90s and you had pop, rap, rock and r&b co-mingling together. Consolidation in the music business (there are now only 3 major labels) and the radio business has killed the quality and variety of music offered to consumers.

R111 Yep. I miss the days when the #1 song usually was the TRUE most popular song in the country. There was some chart manipulation in the 90's especially with Sony acts but #1 songs from the 50's through the early 00's were huge songs. Now, with rare exception, a #1 is almost laughable in its widespread appeal.

All the guys at my school listened to Pat Benatar and Heart in the 80s.

You really did have every genre on the radio back then. Can you imagine an artist like Rickie Lee Jones finding huge stardom today?

It is why songs from the 50's through 90's are remember by everyone. True classics. True hits.

Nothing sticks now and nothing will be remembered. It is sad and it is because of the consolidation of corps. They destroyed radio. Most people aren't exposed to different kinds of music played on the same station.

R55 That is a key cultural difference between black people and white people.

Black people think of music as more collaborative. For a rapper, it is a marker of success to have other top rappers, as many as possible, do verses on your album or co produce songs. For white people, the exact opposite is true. Being able to do more of the work on your own gets you greater recognition than just being a singer or writer or doing great collaborations.

Neither is better. They are just different

R115, I think that is actually more of a difference between white british people and white americans. This is why the UK has produced more successful bands while America has produced more great solo artists.

The key to me is who is opening for him. It's always a balancing act between getting someone who will have their own fanbase, thus putting the attendance numbers up, but won't threaten the headliner.

Kids won't pay those high ticket prices for one headliner, but they might for two acts they really, really want to see. Drake's fans aren't old enough to be on the geezer circuit where disposable income and nostalgia combine to make touring viable.

Pretty sure Drake was a child actor in Canada. It is a totally created product, and while I have liked some songs, they do all sound the same. Cannot imagine a whole night of it. Musicians are really fucked now as their income comes mostly from touring. Prices are ridiculous and folks are just sitting out. Some, like Drake and Beyonce are seemingly always on tour. Even people who like them are saying pass. The country affordable night out seems like a real money maker - my impression is that often they have more bands on the bill, which also drives sales.

Drake was definitely a child actor. He was in Degrassi for 8 seasons billed as Aubrey Graham. I think his character ended up in a wheel chair after a school shooting.

His tour is not off to a good start....his tour bus has been towed away

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