How come Judy Garland's last husband was never a suspect in her death?

He marries an older woman, and 3 months later he finds her dead in the bathroom.

This is much more suspicious than Fadi and George.

He wasn't a suspect in her death because Judy Garland was a drug addict who had overdosed God knows how many times before. There was no reason to believe there was any foul play. He didn't inherit any money after her death either; she was flat broke. But he did write a book about his relationship with her, so I guess he made some money from that. I don't think got much out of being Judy Garland's last husband. They were barely married before she died and the marriage was considered a disaster even before she died. He was just the latest in a long line of Judy's gay lovers and husbands

She only had one gay husband. People talk about Minnelli and Deans, but it's just talk.

"People talk about Minnelli and Deans, but it's just talk."

HAH! Judy had THREE gay husbands: Vincent Minnelli, Mark Heron and Mickey Deans. Everybody knows that.

I have a friend who claims that shortly after Judy died, said friend met Mickey Deans and they became lovers. Said friend was young, good looking, and had money and stated that they were together for a few years. Did lots of drugs and traveled. Said friend is now a distinguished, respected businessman, travels in moneyed circles. And once said he thought Mickey killed her "because she was a pain in the ass." Allegedly.

I don't think he killed her. I think he knew she wouldn't be around that long when he married her. Why DID he marry her? I guess as a gay man he thought he had a trophy wife in half dead Judy Garland.

The husband you never hear about #1, David Rose. As fas as I know, he never spoke about his life with Garland.

You never hear about David Rose because he was a nice, boring guy. Nothing wrong with him, not gay....there's not much to say about him.

[quote]You never hear about David Rose because he was a nice, boring guy. Nothing wrong with him, not gay...

So, of course, Judy had no use for him.

Oy they have relocated Judy to Hollywood Forever Cemetery behind Paramount .Fuck em.She was a Metro gal.

I was a bit surprised by Judy's death because I saw here 18 months earlier (at Madison Square Garden's Felt Forum, Christmas 1967).

She was not in a good mood initially, but was still able to perform a full concert, although not quite as well as in the past. I was only 25, and did not understand how much will power must have been needed to do even that well. I remember walking near the stage as Judy was still bowing to the applause, up close I was surprised at how much stage makeup she needed to look like the Judy Garland of years before.

Rose may have been boring, but I give him credit for not whoring himself out for quotes about "what being married to Judy was really like".

I think he was the only ex-husband not to be at her funeral.

For fucks sake she was an 88 year old alcoholic and drug addict. Why would they suspect anyone?

"For fucks sake she was an 88 year old alcoholic and drug addict. Why would they suspect anyone?"

She was only 47 years old when she died. She just LOOKED like she was 88.

[quote] And once said he thought Mickey killed her "because she was a pain in the ass."

That's pretty damaging evidence. Your friend should come forward.

I remember reading once that the daughters used to closely monitor the number of pills that she took each night. They were worried that Deans wouldn't monitor her as closely as they did. I guess he just couldn't be bothered, but I don't think he did anything deliberate.

She also got super skinny at the end of her life. I don't know if she would have had the clarity to realize that she should be taking less pills because she weighed less. Her weight went down and the number of pills probably increased, so it was just a matter of time.

It's like with Marilyn. When someone who takes a handful of sleeping pills each night - sometimes washed down with alcohol - eventually dies of a sleeping pill overdose, I don't automatically think she must have been killed by the Kennedys/the CIA/the Mafia etc.

In 1959, she was admitted to hospital with acute hepatitis and cirrhosis of the liver, caused in part, it was surmised, by the toxic cocktail of pills she'd been dependent upon for over 15 years.

It's amazing she made it as long as she did.

R17 is correct.....yet some lasted so long. Anita O'Day is one who comes to mind. Elaine Stritch is another.

I listened to her last concert, and was surprised at how well she was still singing. Of course, not like before, but she still hit the important notes and finessed the rest. I never really thought about any complicity in her death by Deans, but I have seen similar situations where certain gay men would abuse older women in their charge. You see this attitude in those male nurses who kill oldsters in the hospital.

I am a huge Judy Queen, but by all accounts she'd been quite bonkers for years. After her show was canceled in 1964, and her overdose in Honk Kong, she really unraveled. Her house on Rockingham (down the street from where O.J. would live!) was lost to the bank in 1967, and from then on Judy was basically a vagrant. At least Deans seemed to be able to keep Judy housed, but the marriage was only a few months old when her body just gave out.

She had been behaving erratically for 5-7 years, and drove everyone away with her antics. I guess the amphetimine psychosis mixed with booze is no joke.

Our poor dear Judy: Garland was very fond of her father. He died in 1935, when Judy was just 13, and she later said that losing him was "the most terrible thing that has happened in my life." Perhaps the trauma was compounded by the fact that it left her at the mercy of her mother. Ethel was the ruthlessly ambitious driving force behind her daughter's precocious and lucrative career. Judy once described her as "the real Wicked Witch of the West." ... Judy Garland's need to perform, she once explained, eventually became the only thing that kept a looming sense of isolation at bay. "I was always lonesome. The only time I felt accepted or wanted was when I was on stage performing. I guess the stage was my only friend . . . It was the only place where I felt equal and safe."

Elsewhere in the article, it was suggested that her marriage to Minelli was arranged by the studio.

The joke for years before her death was that every newspaper in the English-speaking world had the headline JUDY GARLAND DIES OF OVERDOSE set in type face, all ready to go.

In other words, no one suspected Mickey Deans of anything more sinister than being there when the inevitable happened.

Those are some trike sad quotes, [R21]. I've never heard those before.

It's said that Judy's father was gay (and had gay affairs on her mother left and right). Did Judy know about this? Is that the reason she--consciously or unconsciously--kept marrying gay men herself?

*very sad quotes (not "trike" sad; don't know where that even came from..)

Also, for you Garland experts: I'm new to the Judy fandom and--of course--always heard that she was on drugs.

What was the basic combo she was on though? (And if you could compare what she was on to some of our modern drugs to make it more understandable, that would be really helpful).

I just want to understand what her dependency level was and sort of compare it (and what she was taking) to what our modern troubled stars are known to be into.

Our best friend in Hollywood, who was a saintly person, was at a Hollywood party in the 1960s where he overheard a conversatia between Judy and Lauren Bacall. Judy was describing David Rose as horse-hung

I've never heard anything that contradicted Garland's claims that her mother was demanding and domineering. But there's a story lurking in there. Somewhere.

Garland's father died in 1935. The Depression had been crushing everyone for five years, so there surely was no family nest egg to see them through unscathed. Under the best circumstances, career opportunities in that era for women were meager. Garland's mother was widowed and entirely on her own to support herself and three daughters. Social Security survivor benefits did not begin until 1939.

No doubt she was demanding, but she got them through. I suspect Ethel's biggest failing was not in what she did to her daughters, but in how she failed to protect them, especially Judy, from the abuse that lurks everywhere in show biz.

"Perhaps the trauma was compounded by the fact that it left her at the mercy of her mother. Ethel was the ruthlessly ambitious driving force behind her daughter's precocious and lucrative career. Judy once described her as "the real Wicked Witch of the West."

Ethel Gumm was nowhere near the monster Judy made her out to be. She was just a convenient scapegoat. In fact, Judy had a very good relationship with her mother, until her lover Joe Mankiewicz (little Joey was named after him) suggested to go into psychoanalysis to sort out her mental problems and drug dependency. Some analyst told Judy that a lot of people's problems stem from the relationship with their mother...and she took that notion and ran with it. It's her HER fault! She later told outrageous lies about Ethel, claiming that she was pouring pills down her throat when she was only ten years old. Judy Garland always blamed other people for her problems; she blamed her mother, Louis Mayer, MGM, Sid Luft. She blamed everybody but herself.

She was 47 when she died? Are you fucking kidding me?

A very reliable theatre queen who took care of Judy when in Boston staying at the Sheraton Hotel before she moved on to London knows no one wanted to go near or help Judy at the end , including her children, she was a drug addicted monster, Deans was a big queen who wanted to exploit her and tried to no avail, she was beyond help, he was a despicable queen , gross , pig.

She didn't look old at all

The OP's picture of those two lovebirds, Mickey Deans and Judy Garland, is hilarious. Mickey Deans is trying so hard to look happy and in love. But if that isn't a "pained" expression I don't know what is.

Did Judy have bad hygiene?

"Did Judy have bad hygiene?"

Probably. Most drug addicts do. On some picture she reeked of paraldehyde; she was always touchy feely with people always getting up in their faces and her breath had that offensive odor.

Judy abused Seconal and Nembutal more than anything in her last years. It was Seconal that was associated with her death. She had the equivalent of about 10 doses in her bloodstream as she sat there on the commode. She used alcohol, too. I've never read anything about her using amphetamines after the "speed in the day, sleeping pills at night" MGM "child star" regimen.

In her final years it was reported that Judy emitted an odor that people compared to that of a decomposing corpse. Speculation ensued that her body was rotting from within.

She actually did not die from a drug overdose. Her heart gave out.

R16 Marilyn's situation is different and shrouded in suspicion. Why did it take several hours to call the police? Why was the housekeeper doing laundry when the cops arrived? Why was there no pill residue found in her stomach? Why did her tissue samples at the morgue go missing?

This is why people wonder if there was a coverup or murder.

R19 like Doris Duke and Bernard Lafferty?

This thread is making me hungry.

There has always been speculation that one of Judy's main reasons for marrying Rose was that it emancipated her from Ethel.

She was taking a significant amount of Ritalin.

Judy was one of the most talented singers ever. She also had a lot of pain and struggle throughout her life. Despite that, she had a good heart, which is hard to encounter in Hollywood. At a time when gay people were oppressed beyond belief, they identified with her struggles and she theirs.

[quote]3 months later he finds her dead in the bathroom.

But in Judy Garland's bathroom all seemed to breathe freedom and peace, and to make one forget the world and its sad turmoils.

R14 That's not damaging evidence, it's an opinion at best. Garland consumed a veritable rainbow of "dolls" during her life.

If every surviving spouse who at some point called a dead spouse a pain in the ass was guilty of murder...

Bump for fraudulent husbands

[quote]I remember reading once that the daughters used to closely monitor the number of pills that she took each night.

Liza got far away from that hot mess. She wasn't counting mama's pills.

There would be no need for anyone to come forward, as both Judy and Mickey are dead. He didn't need to murder her, anyway: If he wanted to get rid of her, all he had to do was not intervene during one of her many overdoses/suicide attempts. A poor man's Klaus Von Bulow.

Didn't Deans dump Judy on some friends in Norway (?) for a few weeks while he pursued business contacts for Judy? (He was probably on a cock-sucking marathon instead).

"Judy abused Seconal and Nembutal more than anything in her last years."

RITALIN, you forgot Ritalin. Documented by her bf of two months in 1968, before Deans. Ritalin + vodka + other pills - food.

R46, do you have that ready to cut and paste for every thread like this?

[quote]How come Judy Garland's last husband was never a suspect in her death?

Because she was a drug addicted harridan.

Razor sharp analysis, R55.

Judy Garland didn't die on a toilet.

She was in the CIA and being a child actress was a cover.

She later pretended to be an addict to confuse foreign agents.

She died in Montana in 1987 when her bungee cord broke over a rocky riverbed.

Liza still doesn't know the truth because you can't trust a drunk to keep quiet.

I couldn't marry a woman.

Not even Judy.

Not even Reva Shayne

A few things I have never understood was:

Why did she marry gay men?

Why did they marry her?

How did she manage to convince them and have kids?

Why did her daughter follow this lead?

Those two were some talented oddballs, that's for sure. Sad about Judy's mental health problems and early death.

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